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| Amend the resolution, as and if amended, by adding new SECTIONS to be appropriately numbered to read:
/SECTION . Article VI of the Constitution of South Carolina, 1895, is amended by adding:
"Section 12. (A) A person may not serve more than a total of twenty years in any combination of the following offices: United States House of Representatives and United States Senate.
(B) A person who would violate the provisions of this section if he were to serve a full term in any such office is ineligible to be elected to that office and may not appear on the ballot for election thereto."
SECTION . The proposed amendment must be submitted to the
qualified electors at the next general election for representatives. Ballots
must be provided at the various voting precincts with the following words
printed or written on the ballots:
"Must Article VI of the Constitution of this State relating to public
officers be amended so as to provide that a person may not serve more than a
total of twenty years in any combination of the following offices: United
States House of Representatives and United States Senate, and to provide that a
person who would violate the above provisions if he were to serve a full term in
any such office is ineligible to be elected to that office and may not appear on
the ballot for election thereto.
Those voting in favor of the question shall deposit a ballot with a check or cross mark in the square after the word `Yes', and those voting against the question shall deposit a ballot with a check or cross mark in the square after the word `No'."/
Renumber sections to conform.
Amend totals and title to conform.
Rep. HODGES explained the amendment.
Rep. HUFF raised the Point of Order that Amendment No. 6 was out of order as
it was not germane in that the Resolution dealt with Article III of the
Constitution and the amendment dealt with Article VI of the Constitution.
The SPEAKER stated that the Resolution dealt with term limits of House members, Senators and Constitutional officers and amended Article III and the amendment dealt with federal office holders and amended Article VI.
Rep. HODGES continued to argue contra the point in stating that the subject matter was elections and the limitation of terms and that was the same.
The SPEAKER stated that there was an earlier amendment which dealt with the combination of the limitation of state and federal office holders but that this one dealt exclusively with federal office holders.
Rep. HODGES continued to argue that the proposition was that of term limits on elected officials and that the main thrust of the Resolution was term limits and not a question of whether it was going to be narrowly applied.
The SPEAKER stated that the Joint Resolution specifically amended a certain section of the Constitution that solely dealt with the House of Representatives, the Senate and State Constitutional Officers and that the section did not deal with federal office holders.
Rep. HUFF stated that the subject matter was State office holders.
The SPEAKER stated that on January 21, 1992, the House was dealing with Senate Reapportionment and there was an amendment dealing with House Reapportionment and Congressional Reapportionment put up and a Point of Order was raised by Rep. HODGES that the Bill dealt only with the Senate and to be consistent with that this amendment had to deal with House of Representatives, the Senate and State Constitutional Officers.
Rep. HODGES continued to argue that the Resolution did make reference to Article VI.
Rep. BAXLEY, citing Rule 9.3, stated that it allowed an amendment which referred to the intent of the motion or proposition under consideration. He further stated, citing Mason's, Section 5, Page 34, that the amendment shall be allowed and the Body vote it up or down.
Rep. SCOTT, citing Line 29 of the title of the Resolution, stated that it did address Article VII of the Constitution.
The SPEAKER stated that the amendment dealt with federal office holders and the Resolution dealt with state office holders and it attempted
Rep. HODGES proposed the following Amendment No. 9 (Doc Name L:\council\legis\amend\BBM\9802SD.95), which was ruled out of order.
Amend the resolution, as and if amended, by adding new SECTIONS to be appropriately numbered to read:
/SECTION . Article VI of the Constitution of South Carolina, 1895, is amended by adding:
"Section 12. (A) A person may not serve more than a total of thirty years in any combination of the following offices: United States House of Representatives and United States Senate.
(B) A person who would violate the provisions of this section if he were to serve a full term in any such office is ineligible to be elected to that office and may not appear on the ballot for election thereto."
SECTION . The proposed amendment must be submitted to the
qualified electors at the next general election for representatives. Ballots
must be provided at the various voting precincts with the following words
printed or written on the ballots:
"Must Article VI of the Constitution of this State relating to public
officers be amended so as to provide that a person may not serve more than a
total of thirty years in any combination of the following offices: United
States House of Representatives and United States Senate, and to provide that a
person who would violate the above provisions if he were to serve a full term in
any such office is ineligible to be elected to that office and may not appear on
the ballot for election thereto.
Those voting in favor of the question shall deposit a ballot with a check or cross mark in the square after the word `Yes', and those voting against the question shall deposit a ballot with a check or cross mark in the square after the word `No'."/
Renumber sections to conform.
Amend totals and title to conform.
Rep. HUFF raised the Point of Order that Amendment No. 9 was out of order as it was not germane.
The SPEAKER sustained the Point of Order and ruled the amendment out of
order.
Amend the resolution, as and if amended, by adding new SECTIONS to be appropriately numbered to read:
/SECTION . Article VI of the Constitution of South Carolina, 1895, is amended by adding:
"Section 12. (A) A person may not serve more than a total of forty years in any combination of the following offices: United States House of Representatives and United States Senate.
(B) A person who would violate the provisions of this section if he were to serve a full term in any such office is ineligible to be elected to that office and may not appear on the ballot for election thereto."
SECTION . The proposed amendment must be submitted to the
qualified electors at the next general election for representatives. Ballots
must be provided at the various voting precincts with the following words
printed or written on the ballots:
"Must Article VI of the Constitution of this State relating to public
officers be amended so as to provide that a person may not serve more than a
total of forty years in any combination of the following offices: United States
House of Representatives and United States Senate, and to provide that a person
who would violate the above provisions if he were to serve a full term in any
such office is ineligible to be elected to that office and may not appear on the
ballot for election thereto.
Those voting in favor of the question shall deposit a ballot with a check or cross mark in the square after the word `Yes', and those voting against the question shall deposit a ballot with a check or cross mark in the square after the word `No'."/
Renumber sections to conform.
Amend totals and title to conform.
Rep. HUFF raised the Point of Order that Amendment No. 10 was out of order as it was not germane.
The SPEAKER sustained the Point of Order and ruled the amendment out of
order.
Amend the resolution, as and if amended, by adding new SECTIONS to be appropriately numbered to read:
/SECTION . Article VI of the Constitution of South Carolina, 1895, is amended by adding:
"Section 11. (A) A person may not serve more than a total of twenty years in any combination of the following offices: State House of Representatives, State Senate, Governor, Lieutenant Governor, or other state constitutional office.
(B) A person who would violate the provisions of this section if he were to serve a full term in any such office is ineligible to be elected to that office and may not appear on the ballot for election thereto."
SECTION . The proposed amendment must be submitted to the
qualified electors at the next general election for representatives. Ballots
must be provided at the various voting precincts with the following words
printed or written on the ballots:
"Must Article VI of the Constitution of this State relating to public
officers be amended so as to provide that a person may not serve more than a
total of twenty years in any combination of the following offices: State House
of Representatives, State Senate, Governor, Lieutenant Governor, or other state
constitutional office, and to provide that a person who would violate the above
provisions if he were to serve a full term in any such office is ineligible to
be elected to that office and may not appear on the ballot for election
thereto.
Those voting in favor of the question shall deposit a ballot with a check or cross mark in the square after the word `Yes', and those voting against the question shall deposit a ballot with a check or cross mark in the square after the word `No'."/
Renumber sections to conform.
Amend title to conform.
Rep. HODGES explained the amendment.
Rep. HARRISON spoke against the amendment and moved to table the
amendment.
Those who voted in the affirmative are:
Allison Brown, H. Cain Cato Chamblee Cooper Cotty Cromer Dantzler Davenport Easterday Elliott Fair Felder Fleming Fulmer Gamble Hallman Harrell Harrison Harvin Herdklotz Huff Hutson Jaskwhich Keegan Kelley Kinon Klauber Knotts Koon Lanford Law Limbaugh Limehouse Littlejohn Marchbanks Mason McKay Meacham Quinn Rhoad Rice Richardson Riser Robinson Sandifer Seithel Sharpe Shissias Simrill Smith, D. Smith, R. Stuart Thomas Tripp Trotter Vaughn Waldrop Walker Wells Whatley Wilkins Witherspoon Wofford Worley Wright Young, A. Young, J.
Those who voted in the negative are:
Anderson Baxley Boan Breeland Brown, G. Brown, J. Brown, T. Byrd Canty Carnell Cave Clyburn Cobb-Hunter Delleney Govan Harris, J. Harris, P. Harwell Hines Hodges Howard Inabinett Jennings Kennedy Keyserling Kirsh Lloyd
Martin McAbee McCraw McElveen McMahand McTeer Moody-Lawrence Neal Phillips Rogers Scott Sheheen Spearman Stille Stoddard Townsend Tucker Whipper, L. Whipper, S. White Wilder Wilkes Williams
So, the amendment was tabled.
Rep. HODGES proposed the following Amendment No. 12 (Doc Name L:\council\legis\amend\BBM\9796SD.95), which was tabled.
Amend the resolution, as and if amended, by adding new SECTIONS to be appropriately numbered to read:
/SECTION . Article VI of the Constitution of South Carolina, 1895, is amended by adding:
"Section 11. (A) A person may not serve more than a total of thirty years in any combination of the following offices: State House of Representatives, State Senate, Governor, Lieutenant Governor, or other state constitutional office.
(B) A person who would violate the provisions of this section if he were to serve a full term in any such office is ineligible to be elected to that office and may not appear on the ballot for election thereto."
SECTION . The proposed amendment must be submitted to the
qualified electors at the next general election for representatives. Ballots
must be provided at the various voting precincts with the following words
printed or written on the ballots:
"Must Article VI of the Constitution of this State relating to public
officers be amended so as to provide that a person may not serve more than a
total of thirty years in any combination of the following offices: State House
of Representatives, State Senate, Governor, Lieutenant Governor, or other state
constitutional office, and to provide that a person who would violate the above
provisions if he were to serve a full term in any such office is ineligible to
be elected to that office and may not appear on the ballot for election
thereto.
Renumber sections to conform.
Amend title to conform.
Rep. HODGES explained the amendment.
Rep. HUFF moved to table the amendment.
Rep. SCOTT demanded the yeas and nays, which were taken resulting as
follows:
Those who voted in the affirmative are:
Brown, H. Cain Cato Chamblee Cooper Cotty Cromer Dantzler Davenport Easterday Elliott Fair Felder Fleming Fulmer Gamble Hallman Harrell Harrison Herdklotz Huff Hutson Jaskwhich Keegan Kelley Kinon Klauber Knotts Koon Lanford Law Limbaugh Littlejohn Marchbanks Martin Mason McKay Meacham Quinn Rice Riser Robinson Sandifer Seithel Sharpe Shissias Simrill Smith, D. Smith, R. Thomas Tripp Trotter Vaughn Waldrop Walker Wells Whatley Wilkins Witherspoon Wofford Wright Young, A. Young, J.
Anderson Askins Baxley Breeland Brown, G. Brown, J. Brown, T. Byrd Carnell Cave Clyburn Cobb-Hunter Delleney Govan Harris, J. Harris, P. Harvin Hines Hodges Howard Inabinett Jennings Kennedy Keyserling Kirsh Lloyd McCraw McMahand McTeer Moody-Lawrence Neal Phillips Rogers Scott Sheheen Spearman Stille Stoddard Townsend Tucker Whipper, L. Whipper, S. White Wilder Wilkes Williams Worley
So, the amendment was tabled.
Rep. BAXLEY proposed the following Amendment No. 16 (Doc Name L:\council\legis\amend\GJK\21286SD.95), which was tabled.
Amend the resolution, as and if amended, by striking /and this limitation on the number of terms which may be served applies whether or not the terms served in this office are consecutive or nonconsecutive/ as contained in SECTION 1, beginning on line 11 of page 2; as contained in SECTION 3, beginning on line 8 of page 3; and as contained in SECTION 5, beginning on line 9 of page 4.
Amend the resolution further, as and if amended, by adding new SECTIONS to be appropriately numbered to read:
/SECTION . Article VI of the Constitution of South Carolina, 1895, is amended by adding:
"Section 10. The limitation on the number of terms members of the House of Representatives may serve under Article III, Section 2, members of the Senate may serve under Article III, Section 6, and state constitutional officers may serve under Article VI, Section 7, is a limitation only on the number of consecutive terms which may be served."
SECTION . The proposed amendment must be submitted to the qualified electors at the next general election for representatives. Ballots
Those voting in favor of the question shall deposit a ballot with a check or cross mark in the square after the word `Yes', and those voting against the question shall deposit a ballot with a check or cross mark in the square after the word `No'."/
Renumber sections to conform.
Amend title to conform.
Rep. BAXLEY explained the amendment.
Rep. HARRISON moved to table the amendment.
Rep. KENNEDY demanded the yeas and nays, which were taken resulting as
follows:
Those who voted in the affirmative are:
Allison Brown, H. Cain Cato Chamblee Cotty Dantzler Davenport Easterday Elliott Fair Felder Fleming Fulmer Gamble Hallman Harrell Harrison Harvin Herdklotz Huff Hutson Keegan Kelley Kinon Klauber Knotts Koon Lanford Law Limbaugh Limehouse Littlejohn Marchbanks Mason McKay Meacham Quinn Rhoad Rice Riser Robinson Sandifer Seithel Sharpe Shissias Simrill Smith, D. Stuart Thomas Tripp Trotter Vaughn Walker Wells Whatley Wilkins Witherspoon Wofford Worley Wright Young, A. Young, J.
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